We Want MoR – Chapters 19 and 20


Harry learns to lose through the tried and true method of an ass whooping and sees the stars with Professor Quirrell.

Original chapters, written by Eliezer Yudkowsky, can be read here and the audiobook chapters, recorded by Eneasz Brodski, can be found earlier in this podcast feed and on the website.

In next week’s episode, we will be covering chapters 21 and 22.

Carl Sagan’s Pale Blue Dot

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Coy on the same Discord manages an RSS feed that compiles the relevant audiobook chapters with the WW MoR counterparts. Just copy and paste that link into your favorite podcast app in the “add by url” option. Thanks, Coy!

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  1. Quirrell was demonstrating one way to lose. One is saying “You win”. The lesson is that you can just lose very easily, even if you have the ability to win.

    As for Snape vs Quirrell questions, Snape is lording inaccessible trivia. Quirrell is challenging Harry to think and reason out something he has all the necessary knowledge for.

  2. The Evil Overlord list way predates TVTropes. I’m kinda surprised Brian hasn’t run into it, being an Elder Geek himself. :) It was floating around already back in the days of BBSes and IRC.

  3. It is funny, though, how the first quote that comes into Harry’s mind has to do with the winning, no matter the cost.

  4. To be clear the snap that Harry does in the previous chapter is to show solidarity with the other students who were abused by Snape. It’s not meant as a contradiction to his apology but to show he hasn’t capitulated in the face of said abuse and Snape’s apology immediately after hits home this point further. It’s a convenient place and way to give them hope. That’s how I interpret it anyways.

  5. All hail Harry the Grey Lord :D

    Why do you insist on keeping it under 2 hours? I wouldn’t mind more.

  6. Man that Representativeness Heuristic conversation was a little painful to listen to. I think you got it eventually but to put it simply for anyone still having trouble:

    Dumb Hogwarts student using the representativeness heuristic: Wow, forgiving those bullies like that was a really nice thing to do so Harry must be a good person.

    Smart Professor Quirrell using Bayesian evidence: nobody’s so nice that they’d actually forgive those bullies that quickly, but it’s exactly what an evil person would do if they wanted to look good.

  7. Baba Yaga is a witch from slavic mythology. She’s powerful and live in a house with chiken legs and can either do harm and good to other characters. Actually, her name is Yaga, “baba” means a woman.

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