We Want MoR – Chapters 23 and 24


Draco flips out as his worldview is shattered!

Original chapters, written by Eliezer Yudkowsky, can be read here and the audiobook chapters, recorded by Eneasz Brodski, can be found earlier in this podcast feed and on the website.

In next week’s episode, we will be covering chapters 25 and 26.

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  1. I don’t remember my first reaction to the regressive gene thing, but if it really is that simple, then how do first generation half-bloods become wizards at all? Or else a Witch having unprotected sex with a common non-squib Muggle should be as frowned upon as any other sex that is very probably leading to handicapped children, like drugs during pregnancy, incest, or having children with someone with a dominant genetic disorder.

  2. Look up “Xanatos Gambit” on TVTropes. It’s all very relevant to the content of chapter 24. And Xanatos is actually from the Gargoyles cartoon.

    And if you feel like it, you can also watch the YouTube video “David Xanatos is Badass” to see why he had so many fans among a certain type of 90s kids.

  3. I find it interesting that normally Brian views things Harry does more negatively than me, except in this chapter where at the end Harry is thinking “but of course a human would totally see that coming” and Brian gives Harry the credit for Knowing that Draco is totally plotting to stab him in the back. For me I took that as Harry only musing about monkeys and ironically is actually totally unaware of Draco wanting to betray him.

  4. This might be a bit harsh, but it seems to me like Brian is desperately signalling self awareness in a kind of #notlikeothernerds manner, and in doing so falling prey to more or less the same trope as r/iamverysmart, but where instead of pinning his self worth on intelligence, he is pinning it on being relatively well adjusted. I can’t help thinking there should be an r/iamverynormal subreddit dedicated to this trope. To me it reeks of the same insecurity that lies at the root of the r/iamverysmart trope, and in calling out the alleged lack of self awareness of Eliezer Yudkowsky, Brian ends up being the one to show a lack of self awareness, not to mention that the perspectives of other characters (Draco, Hermione, etc) clearly address many of Brian’s complaints.

    Also, in talking about nerd culture glorifying our nerd celebrities unreasonably and imagining them to be perfect, he does have a point, but at the same time he seems to be one of the people demanding perfection. Eliezer Yudkowsky is probably both somewhat socially awkward and keenly aware of the fact. Are we really to say that that makes him a bad person?

    This kind of virtue signalling is not a good look, and that is equally true whether the virtue in question is being very smart or being well adjusted.

    I think Brian should read Unsong just for the brief exchange between the comet king and Uriel after the diplomatic disaster, where the comet king says “You are no good at [social interaction], and you will never be any good at that, and if you were good at that you would not be good at what you need to be good at.”

  5. I’d actually say the stupidest interview question is “Why do you want this specific job?”

    It takes all my will power not to say:

    “I applied for dozens of jobs. We both know the answer is money.”

  6. Merlin was Most notably managed in the paragraph: “Merlin’s saggy left nu-” “Ron!”

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